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Home > Richmond shops > Car Records > ATSF Valley 6-6-4

Richmond Pullman: ATSF "Valley" series 6-6-4

  As lightweight articulated streamliners were proving their reliability and economy on the Union Pacific and Burlington route, Santa Fe made its' first investment in modern equipment with an order to Budd for a stainless steel coach numbered 3070 delivered in January of 1936. The car would be built with the patented Shotweld process that produced a full size car with a great savings in weight over the standard riveted cars (83,000 vs. 160,000 lbs.) The shiny fluted sides gave a pleasant appearance to the car and were easy to maintain. Santa Fe's second lightweight car, 3071, built at St. Louis Car Co. from welded Corten steel came in at 98,00 lbs., a great weight savings but not enough to sway Santa Fe from placing orders for 103 cars with Budd for eight new streamline train sets: a new Super Chief, San Diegan, Tulsan and twin sets for El Capitan, Golden Gate and Chicagoan-KansasCitian. A second Super Chief was also added. 47 more cars were ordered for delivery 1940-1942

  Pullman produced the first conventional size lightweight sleeping car, Forward, in November of 1936. The car provided for 8-sections, 2-Double bedroom and 2-compartments. It was the first car to use welded Corten steel truss frame construction. The car also featured fluted side sheets like Budd products. The Budd sides were fully structural where the Pullman sides were only decorative. The A problem developed when railroads were unable to keep water from going behind the stainless steel sides. The Corten body rusted away to where most railroads removed the siding and rebuilt the cars with smooth sides. Pullman delivered 61 stainless steel sided cars to Santa Fe before the the start of WWII.

Tesuque Valley in its as delivered two-tone gray Pullman pool colors. It would be painted in "Shadowline" May 9, 1949 at Richmond, then into post war two-tone gray at Calumet January 23, 1953. Tesuque Valley was one of the last cars shopped in Richmond.

  119 6 Sec-6 Rmt-4 DB cars were built under Lot #6669 to Plan 4099 and delivered in June of 1942. Except for exterior paint and air conditioning systems the cars were identical and assigned to the Missouri Pacific (4), Erie (4), Illinois Central (12), Overland Route (60), Golden State (13) Santa Fe (26). These were the first smooth side streamline sleepers on the Santa Fe.
   These cars were to be used to provide new sleeping cars for secondary trains Grand Canyon and Ranger. Painted in the new Pullman two-tone gray scheme these cars were pressed into service during the war on the previously all-stainless steel sided Chief.


Shop records August 12,1948 to December 26,1958 by release date. Cars were shopped in Calumet and St. Louis prior to and after these dates.
Car Name Shop Sequence Class Repair Date Arrived Date In Date Out Report # Special Orders
Eagle Nest Valley 2 of 7 MSB 07 05 48 07 19 48 08 12 48 46896 Painted CED3572D Shadowline
Monument Valley 2 of 7 MSB 07 02 48 07 29 48 08 26 48 46903 Painted CED3572D Shadowline; MP couplers; IRC
Cottonwood Valley 1 of 5 MSB 03 06 48 03 19 48 09 21 48 47076 1038; Painted CED3572D Shadowline
Kaw Valley 2 of 6 MSB 08 13 48 08 30 48 10 11 48 47115 Painted CED3572D Shadowline
Antelope Valley             10 18 48   Painted CED3572D Shadowline
Chama Valley 2 of 6 MSB 09 23 48 10 13 48 11 16 48 47292 Painted CED3572D Shadowline; Interior recoated
San Miguel Valley   of         12 04 48   Painted CED3572D Shadowline
Mescalero Valley             01 04 49   Painted CED3572D Shadowline
Paradise Valley 2 of 7 GSB 12 16 48 12 24 48 01 25 49 47642 Painted CED3572D Shadowline; MP couplers; IRC
Salt River Valley 3 of 7 GSB 01 07 49 01 17 49 02 12 49 47785 Painted CED3572D Shadowline; TLMP couplers; IRC
Pleasant Valley 2 of 9 GSB 01 27 49 02 11 49 03 09 49 47911 Painted CED3572D Shadowline; MP couplers; IRC
Red River Valley 2 of 6 GSB 02 19 49 03 01 49 03 22 49 48058 Painted CED3572D Shadowline; TLMP couplers; IRC
Whitewater Valley             04 01 49   Painted CED3572D Shadowline
Cimarron Valley 2 of 6 GSB 02 10 49 03 30 49 04 22 49   Painted CED3572D Shadowline
Sweetwater Valley 4 of 8 SSBT 04 02 49 04 07 49 04 27 49 48301 Painted CED3572D Shadowline
Tesuque Valley 3 of 8 GSB 03 29 49 04 06 49 05 03 49 48258 Painted CED3572D Shadowline
Pecos Valley 2 of 6 GSB 05 04 49 05 11 49 06 08 49 48492 S.O.1030 Shadowline Paint Exterior CED3572D
Verde Valley             06 14 49   Painted CED3572D Shadowline
Surprise Valley 3 of 8 MSB 06 17 49 06 23 49 07 15 49 48725 Painted CED3572D Shadowline
Pleasant Valley             08 12 49   Date in CCR and SFHS 664 article
Rio Grande Valley 2 of 7 GSB 09 15 49 09 27 49 10 21 49 49112 Painted CED3572D Shadowline
Hidden Valley 2 of 7 GSB 11 09 49 11 17 49 12 15 49 49257 Painted CED3572D Shadowline
Redondo Valley 2 of 6 GSB 11 29 49 12 09 49 12 30 49 49358 Painted CED3572D Shadowline
Blue Valley 2 of 6 ???   12 13 49 01 11 50 49369 Painted CED4581C
Sunshine Valley 2 of 7 GSB 12 19 49 12 23 49 01 20 50 49401 Painted CED4581
Red Rock Valley 2 of 6 GSB 01 19 50 01 25 50 02 16 50 49520 Painted CED4581; IRC
Antelope Valley             03 03 50   Painted CED4581
Eagle Nest Valley 3 of 7 G 08 29 50 09 27 50 10 31 50 50498 Painted CED4581C
Monument Valley 3 of 7 GSB 11 20 50 12 01 50 12 28 50 50988 Painted CED4581C
Kaw Valley 3 of 6 GSB 01 16 51 01 29 51 02 16 51 51310 Painted CED4581C
Cottonwood Valley 2 of 5 GSB 02 23 51 03 08 51 04 02 51 51608 1025; Painted CED4581C
Paradise Valley 3 of 7 GSB 03 01 51 03 15 51 04 09 51 51613 Painted CED4581C; IRC
Pleasant Valley 4 of 9 M 04 13 51 04 20 51 05 10 51 51930 Painted CED4581B; IRC
Chama Valley 3 of 6 MSB 04 16 51 04 24 51 05 14 51 51931 Painted TTG; Interior recoated
Mescalero Valley             07 16 51   Painted CED4581
Red River Valley 3 of 6 MSB 10 01 51 10 10 51 10 26 51 52698 Painted CED4581D
Sweetwater Valley 5 of 8 M 11 08 51 12 04 51 12 27 51 52939 Painted CED4581
Salt River Valley 4 of 7 MSB 01 14 52 01 25 52 02 13 52 53254 Painted CED4581; IRC
San Miguel Valley             03 22 52   Painted CED4581
Whitewater Valley             05 28 52   Painted CED4581
Pecos Valley 3 of 6 M 06 02 52 06 06 52 06 24 52 53998 Painted CED4581C
Blue Valley 3 of 6 M 08 01 52 08 07 52 09 19 52 54289  
Cimarron Valley 3 of 6 ???   08 28 52 09 26 52   Painted CED4581C
Hidden Valley 3 of 7 M 02 25 53 03 17 53 04 03 53 55335 Painted CED4581C
Verde Valley             04 09 53   Painted CED4581
Sunshine Valley 3 of 7 M 04 10 53 04 21 53 05 11 53   Painted CED4581D
Monument Valley 4 of 7 M 04 20 53 05 04 53 05 21 53 55619 Painted D5619; IRC; new plush, tile
Chama Valley 4 of 6 M 08 27 53 09 03 53 09 23 53 56191 Interior recoated
Paradise Valley 4 of 7 M 11 10 53 11 27 53 12 16 53 56559  
Cottonwood Valley 3 of 5 MA 01 07 54 01 06 54 02 03 54 56834  
Pleasant Valley 5 of 9 M 02 24 04 03 15 54 04 01 54 57019 Painted CED4581D; New Carpet, tile
Red River Valley 4 of 6 M 07 09 54 07 23 54 08 10 54 57566 New carpet; IRC
Sweetwater Valley 6 of 8 M 08 29 54 09 13 54 09 30 54 57739 Painted CED4581D
Salt River Valley 5 of 7 M 08 29 54 09 15 54 10 04 54 57737 Painted CED4581D; New plush; IRC
Pecos Valley 4 of 6 M 11 20 54 11 24 54 12 16 54 58052 Painted CED4581D
Sunshine Valley 4 of 7 MA 12 03 54 12 07 54 02 01 55 58097 Painted CED4581D
Citrus Valley 4 of 6 M 02 09 55 02 18 55 03 18 55 58214 Painted CED4581D
Cimarron Valley 4 of 6 ???   04 20 55 05 10 55   Painted CED4581D
Tesuque Valley 5 of 8 M   06 13 55 06 29 55 58596  
Surprise Valley 5 of 8 M 08 16 55 08 23 55 09 14 55 58814  
Rio Grande Valley 4 of 7 M 09 19 55 09 23 55 10 17 55 58895 (Painted CED4581D 4/6/1953)
Hidden Valley 4 of 7 M 01 08 56 01 18 56 02 08 56 59223 Painted CED4581D; 41-CDO-11 trucks
Taos Valley 5 of 7 M 01 09 56 01 25 56 02 14 56 59230 ex-Estancia Valley 7/18/54; 41-CDO-11 trucks
Redondo Valley 4 of 6 MA 03 21 56 02 28 56 03 20 56 59381 Painted CED4581D
Monument Valley 5 of 7 M 03 27 56 04 06 56 04 30 56 59488 41-CDO-11 trucks
Red Rock Valley 4 of 6 M 03 29 56 04 10 56 05 02 56 59507 41-CDO-11 trucks; (Painted CED4581D 5/26/1953)
Hidden Valley 5 of 7 S-A 05 05 56 05 08 56 05 16 56 59638  
Kaw Valley 5 of 6   05 09 56 05 23 56 06 13 56 59618 TLMP couplers
Eagle Nest Valley 5 of 7 M 05 28 56 06 05 56 06 25 56 59661  
Chama Valley 5 of 6 M 06 20 56 06 25 56 08 13 56 59729 Painted D4581D; Interior recoated; new carpet
Paradise Valley 5 of 7 M 07 02 56 07 06 56 08 22 56 59753  
Cottonwood Valley 4 of 5 M 09 03 56 09 10 56 10 03 56 59877 1531; Painted CED4581D
Pleasant Valley 6 of 9 M 10 12 56 10 19 56 11 07 56 60009  
Red River Valley 5 of 6 MSB 12 20 56 12 31 56 01 23 57 60204  
Sweetwater Valley 7 of 8 M 04 22 57 05 02 57 06 05 57 60576  
Salt River Valley 6 of 7 M 08 15 57 08 22 57 09 19 57 60855  
Pecos Valley 5 of 6 M 11 10 57 11 18 57 12 13 57 61090  
Citrus Valley 5 of 6 M 12 31 57 01 03 58 01 31 58 61203  
Sunshine Valley 6 of 7 MSBC 02 06 58 02 07 58 03 04 58 61292 Painted CED4581D
Rio Grande Valley 6 of 7 ST 11 08 58 11 11 58 11 29 58 61492  
Tesuque Valley 6 of 8 ST 12 07 58 12 08 58 12 26 58 61498  

  After the war the decision was made to make the Super Chief a daily train and to introduce a new streamline Chicago- Texas train, the Texas Chief. Cars builders needed to retool after their efforts in war production and had a huge backlog of orders to fill. Heavyweight diners and lounge cars along with the pre-war 6-6-4 Valley series cars were refurbished and used to fill the gap until orders arrived. The coach green and two-tone gray cars were repainted aluminum color and "shadow-lined", a paint method used to simulate fluting on non-fluted cars. This was accomplished by masking lines along the car and using a spray gun to feather the gray underneath the tape. When the tape was removed a sharp edge was left over the feathering. The cars looked good and passed the 50-50 rule (50 feet or 50 m.p.h.).
   By 1950 Santa Fe had received large numbers of the post-war cars to replace the shadow-lined cars in the name trains. Shadow-lined cars were returned to the shop for repainting in the Santa Fe post war version of two-tone gray. Most cars were reassigned to secondary trains. Some cars were still assigned to the Chief for transcontinental service Los Angeles to Washington D.C. through Chicago via the Baltimore and Ohio.
  With the rapid decline in Pullman travel from 1955 on, newer cars replaced the Valleys' in most service and they were used mostly in tour group service. Starting in 1965 cars were scrapped with most going during 1967. Two cars have survived: Pleasant Valley was sold to Morre Clebolt and renamed Chief Illini II and stored at the Monticello & Sagamon Valley Museum in Illinois. Verde Valley was sold to the Gulf Coast Chapter N.R.H.S.

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